While some critics say the US participation in the swaps could incentivize foreign governments to hold Americans hostage or prisoners under false charges as a form of leverage, Reed told CNN’s Jake Tapper that he doesn’t buy their argument.
“The thing that you have to understand is countries like North Korea — Russia now, obviously, China, Syria, Iran, Venezuela — countries like that are going to take Americans hostage no matter what,” Reed told Tapper in a newly released clip from the upcoming CNN Special Report: “Finally Home: The Trevor Reed Interview,” which airs Sunday night. “And even if they don’t receive some type of exchange for those prisoners, they will do that anyway just out of pure malice just to show the United States that, ‘We took your citizens.'”
Reed told Tapper in the clip, which aired on CNN’s “State of the Union,” that he believes these nations are “going to continue to do that as long as American citizens travel there.”
Reed, a former US Marine, was sentenced to nine years in prison in July 2020 after being accused of endangering the “life and health” of Russian police officers in an altercation the previous year. He and his family have denied the charges against him.
Reed, in the clip from the upcoming interview, argued that what sets the US apart from other nations is its willingness to bring Americans home when they’re being held hostage or are wrongfully imprisoned abroad.
“The United States went out and made the ethical decision to exchange prisoners to get their innocent Americans out of that country, even while exchanging them for someone who’s more high profile and valuable in the United States,” Reed said, later adding that “the Russians, the Chinese, Venezuelans, Iran, Syria, North Korea — none of them ever in their whole history have or ever would make an exchange for a prisoner who is just an average one of their citizens. that’s what sets the United States apart.”
A senior administration official told CNN last month that they do not necessarily see Reed’s successful repatriation as translating to momentum for Whelan’s and Griner’s cases but said the US government will continue to press for their release, and the channel for potential swaps will remain open.
According to a senior State Department official, the top US diplomat relayed that Griner’s release is a top priority for the department and has his full attention.
Reed recalls his mindset in prison, horrid conditions of Russian psychiatric facility
Reed told Tapper he believed he was sent to the psychiatric treatment facility as a punishment for his continued push to appeal his conviction.
He described the facility: “There was blood all over the wall there — where prisoners had killed themselves, or killed other prisoners, or attempted to do that.”
“The toilet’s just a hole in the floor. And there’s, you know, crap everywhere, all over the floor, on the walls. There’s people in there also that walk around that look like zombies,” he continued.
Reed said he did not sleep for a couple of days out of fear of what the people in his cell might do to him.
In another clip released on Friday, Reed said he denied himself the hope of getting out of Russian prison.
“And a lot of people are not going to like what I’m gonna say about this, but I kind of viewed their — having hope as being a weakness,” he said. “So I did not wanna have that hope of, like, me, you know, being released somehow and then have that taken from me.”
“I wouldn’t let myself hope,” he later remarked.
CNN’s Devan Cole contributed to this report.